Adventures in (more) Babymaking

Jan 30th 2010

Well… there it is.  In case you aren’t on Twitter (seriously, why aren’t you on Twitter?!?) then you may not have heard the news that we are officially trying to have another baby.

First I thought it would be fun not to tell anybody and surprise everyone when I started to show, but two things complicated that plan:

  1. I need support and advice from my cyber-mommy-friends.
  2. I have a big ass mouth.

We originally planned to wait until this summer to start, but the more we though about it, we thought that was actually pretty bad timing.  That would give us a baby late next spring, and that really wouldn’t work.  Unlike most couples I know, we have to worry about both John and I being in school and trying to start our careers, so the children have to be timed perfectly to coincide with our full and complex schedules so we don’t get off track again.

With Julesy, we knew we wanted to have him in May so I could have a summer’s worth of maternity leave before school started again.  It worked out perfectly.  We conceived in August and he arrived May 16th.

This time, we thought we’d like to have another baby next May, however, I’ll be graduating in May, then hopefully will be spending my summer working in a law firm with my paralegal certificate, and then starting law school in the fall of ’11.  When I really thought about it, I decided the worst thing I could think of would be to try to start a new job right after having a baby, and then starting law school with a 3 month old who will still probably be up nursing all hours of the night.

Hayell. No.

However – we know we want another baby.  That part is easy.  But we know we don’t want to have that baby while I’m in law school, or even during my first few years out when I’m trying to get my career going. And if we wait any longer than that, I’ll be in my 40′s, and Jonas will nearly be a teenager.  We don’t want to start alllllll over again with the baby stuff in our 40′s, so really, if we want a third baby, it needs to happen by the end of this year.

We also desperately want this baby to be a girl.  Of course (and this should really go without saying) we will love whatever baby we get.  But seriously.  Universe?  PLEASE give us a girl. John and I aren’t the only ones who want a girl – Jonas has started asking for a sister.  In fact, he has asked me for a sister nearly every day this week.  When I said

“Hey Jonas, do you want Mommy & Daddy to have another baby?”

He says

“YES!  I do want you to have a baby – You got to give me a sister!”

And I try to hide the smile when I say

“Jonas, are you sure you don’t want another brother?”

and he says

“No, Mommy!  I already haaaave a brother!  I need a sister now!”

I know, Jonas.  You do. I totally agree.

So we’re trying the Shettles Method this time and seeing if we can time a sister for him.  I think we could pull it off, but I really should have started charting my cycle a long time ago.  A friend gave me her copy of Taking Charge of Your Fertility:The Definitive Guide to Natural Birth Control, Pregnancy Achievement, and Reproductive Health, and we’ve been half-heartedly using the Fertility Awareness Method for birth control (which has clearly worked, so shut up you nay-sayers!)  And even without having charted things exactly, I know now when I ovulate, so I don’t think conception will be a problem.  The complicated part of trying for a girl with these natural gender prediction methods is you have to know when you ovulate 4 days before it actually happens.  Since I haven’t been keeping records, I’m just going to have to guess, and hope I guessed right.

Now, onto the really important stuff: The Birth.

I will be having a homebirth this time, provided that everything works out with the provider I’ve chosen.  I have a consultation scheduled with one of the few CNMs in Illinois who will take me on now that I have this damn cesarean scar that will haunt my reproductive health for the rest of my life.  This midwife only takes on Secondary HBAC clients, meaning moms who’ve already had at least one successful VBAC (and that’s me! Yay!)

Hyphenated Husband and I are also planning on taking Hypnobirthing classes, and if anybody out there has a wonderful Hypnobirth story to tell me, pretty please, lay it on me.

So there it is.  All the details I have so far.  TFB is adding Number 3.

Holy shit. Here we go!

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And speaking of all this!  Make sure you tune into my radio show this Sunday night at 10 pm Central time when I talk to Meagan Francis about her book on raising big families.

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Not sure if you're still TTC or have already conceived, but if you're still trying you may want to consider picking up a 'lens'. There's a couple different brands. They're mini microscopes that for most women can accurately show you the day you're ovulating. They're reusable pretty much forever, so you may find it useful for NFP after the baby too.

No regrets here. But just so you know, having three kids is totally kicking my ass. Good luck.

Sorry I am so late to the party, I was very behind on my reader. Good luck to you and HH on this journey! I hope egg+sperm happens quickly. I think I have mentioned to you before that I got pregnant the very day I checked TCYF out from the library. April 22, 2008. That was the night Hillary won the primary in Pennsylvania and I was VERY excited about the possibility of a woman POTUS. Happy lovemaking!

sending you lots of girl vibes! I am a mom of 2 girls (after 4 generations of boys in DHs family) so who knows, we might have to look into that method to try for a boy... but that will open up the whole circ kettle of worms again!
Thank you for praising FAM! We use that too and I am so tired of people talking about how we are not being "careful." Both of our girls were expected and timed as we hoped! FAM really does work!

I probably shouldn't have said insane lol - i guess after givign birth to a baby that almost died scared me into making sure i'm always at a hospital. it's crazy how trauma affects us all so differently. good luck making a girl!!
.-= Michelle´s last blog ..Smiling baby on Ultrasound =-.

The pregnancy pact is strong! ; )

I'm excited to read all about it, and especially interested to hear how the Shettles method works out for you. I sort of resided myself to the fact that I'll end up with all boys, but I have to say I'm not above desperate measures for the third (when that happens 100 years from now).
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I'm so excited for your family. We're getting ready to TTC, and also want a girl. Race you?

Soooo exciting! I hope the Shettles method works well for you. And if you ever want to Tweet talk cervical mucous, I'm all over that business ha.
.-= Babe_Chilla´s last blog ..Birth Stories: Starting with Baby Rabies =-.

What?!? I have been away from the computer for 24 hours and I sign on to this?! YAY!!!! I am super excited for you guys!
If you have any Q's about FAM let me know, I would be happy to help!

Sending you tons of baby girl dust. ;)

Homebirth is awesome!!! I did Hypnobabies and liked some things, didn't like others. The whole nitty gritty is here: http://vbacfacts.com/hbacbirth.

Happy conceiving!

Congratulations and best of luck getting the little girl you dream of raising! Best of luck with the Home birth as well. Our second time around we hope to have a home birth. My first was all natural but in the hospital because my Midwife wasn't as comfortable in an in home setting (would have been nice to know that upfront and not half way through my pregnancy but that's another story).

Thanks for being such an inspiration and voice for all the women that don't feel they have one!

As a lawyer I just wanted to say that even if for whatever reason the timing doesn't work for you, I think law school is a GREAT time to have a kid. Hell of a lot easier than while you are working -- your schedule is flexible, you have tons of students around to babysit for you while you are at class, and you don't get punished for taking leave like you do at a firm. I had a couple of friends do it while we were at school and I thought they were insane, but in hindsight kind of wish I had done it then! Just not your first year.

How exciting! Another baby AND a homebirth. You go girl!
Birthworks is also a great class for partners to take together. It really helped prepare us mentally for the birth.
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@Whozat - that's great! I love hearing HBAC stories.

@Jessica - thanks Jessica. We actually thought about taking Bradley our second time, but my husband read the whole book and utilized some of the partner help techniques with me. This time we're more interested in the relaxation that Hypnobirth will bring as well.

@Kyla - is Tamra on Facebook? I gotta find her.

@Susan - I can't wait to hear how your HBAC goes! Please keep me updated.

@Michelle - I know you think it's nutz, but I could never give birth in a hospital again if I had any choice in the matter. Far too much hospital trauma to even consider it.

@Erykah - I'm off to read your HB story as soon as I get the kids to bed. Thanks for linking it!

@FertileFem - I LOVE hearing about your relatively pain free birth. I hope I can get there too.

@Cathy - I can't wait to hear about your HB experience. Keep me updated!

@Amanda - please keep me updated on your VBAC, and how you like Hypnobirthing classes.

@Lisa - Good luck in August or September! It really was great having a baby in May. I'm not super jazzed about having a winter baby since both my boys came in nice weather, but I guess we'll make it work.

@Dionna - you can use Shettles to get a boy, in fact, it's MUCH easier than getting a girl!

@StorkStories - I am SO THRILLED to hear Shettles worked for you. Actually, I've been hearing all over Twitter that it totally works, so long as you time your cycle right. Here's hoping!

@Melodie - Thank you so much for posting the HB story. I LOVE reading them!

@Amber - Thanks. I know I could never keep this a secret. I SUCK at keeping secrets.

@coffeewithjulie - I know it seems kinda crazy that you could "time" a boy or girl, but there's a lot of science behind the reasoning. You should definitely read up on it. It's fascinating. The XX sperm are slower, but survive longer than the XY sperm, which are faster but die quicker and are highly sensitive to the elements. Anyway, lots of people say they've planned every one of their children that way. It's crazy cool!

@Zoey - I'm sorry about your miscarriage. I'm sending you sticky baby vibes this time.

@Jen Wilson - wow! That's awesome! Breech and a vaginal birth! Most providers call that an instant cesarean, despite there being medical evidence to suggest otherwise. Go you!

I used Hypnobabies to help vaginally birth my breech-presented daughter, out-of-hospital. The midwives were amazing, but the hypnosis really helped me relax and let things happen. The whole experience was quite empowering. If you want the more detailed story, send me an email and I'll get it to you.

Congratulations!!

We are also trying at the moment. I hadn't heard about the Shettles method when we got pregnant with our daughter, but in hindsight, I realised that our date of conception was before I would have been ovulating - so I guess it does work.

Also I found it interesting that with my mother's group 90% of us had girls with conceiving in winter (possibly the male sperm couldn't survive the hot showers?)

We're in our third month. The first month I had a miscarriage, so I'm hoping for lucky #3!
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I didn't think there was any validity to being able to plan a specific gender. Huh - learn a new thing everyday! I wish you the best of luck with it all, and just wanted to let you know that the online version of Taking Charge of Your Fertility makes it all so much easier (at least in my experience).

I also have a big-ass mouth. Seriously, seriously big-ass. But I'm glad to know, and I am here cheering you on. Sending big, big baby-girl-conceiving vibes your way, and lots of positive thoughts for getting exactly the birth you want.

Go, Gina!
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I love hearing about second and third babies, especially if a couple knows it will be their last one. So much effort goes into getting it just right. No hypnobirthing here (although I'd do it if I ever had another one!) but I do know of a link for you:
http://healthygreenmoms.com/my-hypnobirthing-story...
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SOOOOO happy for you and have fun trying!! I have a girl after two boys using Dr. Shettles method!!!!!! I can offer tons of support! My husband and I had the exact same mindset you have...which is rec by Shettles. I had no internet then...just my little book "How to choose the sex of your baby" by him. It was rec to me by a friend who had used it after she just had a girl, her 3rd after 2 boys! My hubby's family is a long line of men..all having more men so I had to try to improve my odds.... lol--
It was so funny.... the night our daughter was conceived, I had to call my husband home from work because I told him it was THE LAST we were supposed to "do it" that month nd we'd have to satrat all over the following month if he didn't get his ass home!! He got home, we "did it" , he went back to work... and 9 months later, we had our daughter!
So I give you tons of support and encouragement and PATIENCE to do things as spelled out in the book/internet.
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I am in a similar place - trying, want home birth, considering hypnobabies, but really want another boy ;)
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Congrats!! so glad to see i'm not the only one who's a wee bit obsessive about planning my babies to the day. And so far the FAM has worked for us too:) Good luck TTC! I'm holding off until August or September in hopes of a May/June baby, and will be going for an HBAC! I'm already inspired by your VBAC story and can't wait to follow your HBAC.
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Congratulations! After I had my hospital VBAC I thought, "That was so easy, I really wish I would have done that at home". But, alas, American obstetrics scared the shit out of me, basically making me feel that my vagina would explode all over my living room if I chose to do so.
You have tons of support! Can't wait to read about your journey :)
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Good luck. I posted my first comment after your post about pregnant women on public transportation, and mentioned that I was a VBAC hopeful this time. I'm also taking HypnoBirthing classes to prepare for mine, though we are going to a hospital because we're military and I don't want to go to TRICARE Standard for an entire year (they'll pay 100% for the birth just like they will on TRICARE Prime, but if something else happens to me healthwise, we'd have to pay 20% and I just don't want to set myself up for that).

HypnoBirthing makes a lot of sense to me, but I'm so practical that I have a hard time just relaxing and letting my mind go when we do the practice exercises. I do better when I *have* to relax - when I was laboring prior to my c/s last time, I actually did something very similar to the HB techniques, so I do think it will be good for me. 80% of the practice/work is done prior to the birth, however, which is a lot of time and homework... we have a very hard time fitting it in, as you are supposed to do the exercises daily. We don't get them done daily, unfortunately. I need to get my butt in gear. Good luck, again.

Yay for you! An excuse to get laid! ;)
You'll have an excellent birth, m'dear!

I'm 27 weeks and have been using Hypnobabies for about 3 weeks now and I love it. I love her voice, I love the Hypnobabies philosophy, I love the way it makes me feel. Can't say what will happen as far as the actual birth, but those CDs are really nice!
Best of luck!

Hey, congratulations to you!!! What a fun and exciting time. And WOOHOO on finding a homebirth-attending CNM in Illinois! I hope that the consult goes smashingly well.

I don't know if you've ever read my VBAC story before, but it is a HypBirth VBAC (waterbirth) story. I loved the HypBirth program, but I know a lot of women who also love the Hypnobabies and hypnobirthing programs as well.

Here's the story, if you'd like to read it: http://birthingbeautifulideas.com/?page_id=716

(FWIW, although I didn't go to any Bradley classes, I did read some of the books and "took what I wanted" from them into my own birth.)

Wishing you lots of TTC/XX-chromosome luck (and fun...teehee)! :-)
.-= Kristen´s last blog ..What’s So Funny ‘Bout Birth Trauma Misunderstanding? =-.

Congratulations and good luck! I didn't use a particular method like Bradley or Hypnobirthing but I did read a book that helped me a lot in active management of my labor: 'Birth Skills' by Juju Sundin. I highly recommend it. Using some of the 'skills' in there, I got to transition before I felt any real pain and even then it wasn't bad. My son was born just over an hour after I hit that point so the first 10 hours were virtually pain-free.
.-= FertileFem´s last blog ..Women’s bodies, men’s work (part 1) =-.

I wish I had some advice for how to ensure that the X and not the Y chromosome takes, esp. since this is almost exactly the situation that the hubby and I were in six years ago. How did we make it happen? I have no idea. Good luck!
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Yay homebirth!!! All the best for conception, pregnancy, and birth! I'm a Bradley person, no help on the hypno...
.-= Meg´s last blog ..Birth Story =-.

Congrats! I had an awesome Hypnobirth but decided to go Hypnobabies this time around since its a more complete course and includes great hypnosis during the pushing stage and transition.

Here is a snipet of my birth:
http://sittinginmyglasshouse.blogspot.com/2009/12/...

I was comfortable and really enjoyed my labor (all 6 days of it!) but I did have a melt down at the end. This baby was a VBA2C and I panicked so at 10 cms, I got an epidural and 20 minutes later the baby was born.
.-= Erykah´s last blog ..Wordless Wednesday =-.

good luck! personally, i think homebirths are insane (this coming from the mom of a baby who was born quite sick) but if you have your health on your side, i think you should go for it. will a dr be around? i dont know how all that works. peace!
.-= Michelle´s last blog ..Smiling baby on Ultrasound =-.

I'm doing Hypnobabies for my HBAC, and it is amazing. I have used it for back pain, sinus pain, and just to get a couple minutes of rest. I know that it will be awesome during birth.

Good luck!

Woot woot! Tamra (modernmother) from the Spring Sprouts board does hypnobirthing and swears by it! She said the only time she can't keep her trance is when she's actually pushing the baby out, and by then she said it's such a small fraction of the whole thing that it's not that bad.

Good luck to you!

I didn't officially do hypnobirthing, I did the Bradley Method, but I did listen to some of the hypnobirthing CD's for relaxation towards the end of my pregnancy and they did help!

I think for #2 I would love to take a hypnobirthing class. The Bradley Method was great, but I could have focused a little more on the relaxation.

That's great about the homebirth!

Very exciting - best of luck to you!

FWIW, I have a friend who's had two HBACs!
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