An Alternative Feminist Perspective on the Twilight Saga

Nov 02nd 2009

Twilight_cakeI love the Stephanie Meyers’s Twilight Series.  There, I said it.

I’ve read all four books, plus the unreleased “Edward version” of Twilight.  I also own the movie, and my adoring husband already pre-purchased my tickets for “New Moon” when he was being extra thoughtful one day.  I’ve made two custom Twilight cakes for customers (<——one pictured here) and I’ll go so far as to admit I own an Edward Cullen shoulder bag.   Okay, so maybe I even almost lifted a full size Edward Cullen cutout from the Hot Topic at Yorktown Mall.  Go ahead and laugh your ass off, I’m not ashamed.  That character makes me feel like I’m in heat for the first time in… wait…how old is my son?  That’s right – 3 years, 3 months, and 3 days.  That’s how long it’s been since I wanted to rub myself against someone.

But, it seems that few in the feminist community share my love for this series.  It downright pisses the ladies off.   I get it… I really do.  You have a hapless female lead who’s tripping all over own feet – until along comes a beautiful, mysterious man who rescues her from herself.  Problem is, he could kill her quicker than she could scream “domestic violence” and he controls every move she makes in an order to “protect” her from others.  But even though he’s lethal, she’s madly in love with him and becomes suicidal when he tries to leave her.  She lusts after him incessantly, but he denies all her advances for fear that she will corrupt him. She then ultimately sacrifices her life in order to be with him because being his partner is all she dreams of doing with the rest of her days.

Wow… sounds like a super functional relationship, right?  Is it any wonder that the feminists are angry?

Well, I see it a little differently.  We’re talking about literature here.  It’s Art.  Fiction.  It’s not oppressing anybody.  So, Why so serious, ladies?

I suppose that some could argue that this book tells impressionable young girls, who are the Twilight saga’s core audience, that Bella and Edward’s relationship is somehow a model of what real loving relationships should look like.  I definitely wouldn’t want my teen thinking that that.  But come on – since when did art have to be anything but an outlet?  Since when did fiction have to be anything but an expression of fantasy?  Books are meant to be an escape into a different world.  Meyers is not trying to indoctrinate our youth.  She simply had a fantastic story to tell, and it happened to have resonated with young, hormonal girls (and desperate housewives all over this country.)

I fear that the people who make the moral or feminist argument against this series are also the same people who claim that Marilyn Manson causes teens to shoot up libraries.   Rock music does not make monsters out of children, and Stephanie Meyers’s Twilight series is not going to single-handedly turn our bright, feminist daughters into Stepford wives.  If your teen daughter does not know what a healthy, loving relationship looks like, then you’ve got bigger problems than Meyers writing a few novels of questionable literary value.

It’s a book.  Before you go burning it, decide whether you really want to be burning other female authors’ works simply because you do not find them entertaining. 

I, for one, like escaping into a world where lust, danger, love, action, adventure, and mystery can be wrapped up into a one series that makes me feel the orgasmic aching of Passion again.  Can't you just see the sizzle coming off that word?  Remember, the fleeting hot love that existed before babies and mortgages and washing machine repairs extinguished any fire in your loins?  These books are an indulgence, and I think Meyers hit herself a home run with these stories.

And that is The Feminist Breeder’s word on it.

Now discuss……….

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BriannaEHolmes 5 pts

Personally, my opinion is, parents need to be their children's example of love and relationships. As a parent it's your job to teach them what's healthy and what's not. If Twilight or other fiction or music is your childrens'source of education on real life, that's on you. Everybody does have a fantasy true, endless passion, forever after love and that's why the series is so enticing. That's why I read it and love it, but at the end of the day, I wouldnt give up the real relationship that I have that fulfills me and takes work every day. Teenagers are going to become infatuated, fall in their idea of love, probably think their first, second, third, fourth boyfriends are going to be their price charming, and they're going to get their heart broken a time or two, but if they have a good example at home they'll figure it out one day when they're older and realize what they actually need. And yeah, there are a lot of kids out there who aren't fortunate enough to have parents or other adult figures to teach them these things, but when that's the case, we can't honestly expect society to raise our entire youth.

I cringe at the idea of ascribing the description of "art" to this series of horribly written, purple prose, Mary Sue laden excuse for literature. I hate the viewpoint it's promoting and romanticizing, while still acknowledging there's nothing wrong with fantasy (I mean, people have rape fantasies too, right?) and that these books aren't CAUSING young girls to go out and live unfulfilled lives bearing children in trailer parks and abusive relationships.

Like lots of things, this series is just a symptom of the overlying societal problems; the fact that this IS a fantasy for so many women, when it's so obviously a twisted and demeaning relationship is a symptom of the subjugated role women are socialized to have. It's like bestiality porn. Sure, lots of people have it as a fantasy but would never act on it. That doesn't mean that it's a healthy expression of sexuality, and that doesn't mean it should be glorified or normalized.

A feminist can read these books. She can even enjoy them. I grapple with trying to understand how any true feminist COULD enjoy them, but I won't fall into a true Scotsman fallacy and tell you that she can't.

What I will say is that the disease of gender inequality rages on. And if our reaction is not to treat symptoms like this by taking the cultural equivalent of some tylenol (chase this with some REAL feminist literature, like some MacKinnon or bell hooks) but to fan the flames of the fever, then we're all screwed.

Okay Miss Gina...you are getting too cool for words!! I read your newest blog, then click on another link on the "you might also like" portion and find another gem. Its really getting excessive but makes me happy as a clam to find a kindred soul by ways of mamahood, pop culture, and multi tasking mayhem :) And when we meet up next I will have to show you the pic of my daughter sporting a twilight hat, pretty flippin adorable.

I really love twilight, and getting addicted to build blog filled with twilight products. And 80% of the visitor are female.
.-= Twilight Store´s last blog ..New Moon Jewelry Twilight =-.

"And, of course – what does real love feel like? Well, it’s this all-consuming obsessive hero-worshipping infatuation with someone so perfect that all you can do is feel inferior by contrast. And, faced with a choice between that kind of love and love of someone with whom you have fun and feel relaxed and happy and know you’ve got a real future with, you go for the obsessive hero-worship, no contest. This series isn’t encouraging girls to hold out for real love; it’s encouraging them to throw over real love because it doesn’t feel like the kind of awestruck perfection that Meyer describes."

^^This is exactly what girls are told from a young age. If you listen to popular rap, r & b, and pop songs, this is what we are told. Love is supposed to be like that. And so we grow up, and we have dysfunctional relationships, and being in a normal, non-dramatic, every-day-love kind of relationship is almost boring. Which is why we all get all hot about these books--because we have some sort of screwy vision in our heads about what love is like, and Twilight is the perfect picture of that.

"We’re talking about literature here. It’s Art. Fiction. It’s not oppressing anybody. So, Why so serious, ladies?"
Isn't that the same argument that could be made about pornography? It's fiction, it's not real, who is it hurting? I'm just saying.
I understand the argument about the model relationship the books set forth, it is pretty creepy. I don't believe in banning or (god forbid) burning books but I'm not sure I'd want my daughters reading the series as young teens.
Actually, while I may have enjoyed the series, my biggest complaint was how poorly it was written. I'm a feminist but I'm also apparently a writing snob, ha.

Just started book 4.
Team Jacob GO!
I prefer her relationship with Jacob because it feels way more healthy to be in a relationship of equality than in one of submissiveness.
There was one feminist metaphor I really enjoyed in the first book. The fact that Edward did everything he could to refrain from biting Bella felt to me like a man respecting a girl more than enough not to have sex with her. This was awesome. She begs him to bite her because she feels like she's going to be more likeable to him but he doesn't want to destroy her integrity and her body just because of him. Lovez it!
But the rest I don't like. It's easy literature, like Danielle Steel, which is why I read it. It just comforts women in their status of what Jennifer explained about a stronger man.
I don't like a wuss, certainly not. I don't want to have to waste my time drilling a guy. But I don't want a man "above" me either. I like equity. That's the healthy way of doing things. Period.
And for once we have a book written by a gal, with a gal as protagonist so WHY, dear god WHY does she have to be a whining, whimpering, snotty, cooking little tart? She could be whooping butt too, no?

Woot! I'm so glad I found someone else who likes the series who isn't a teenage girl. ;-) Though – am I the only one here who's on Team Jacob? Edward just gets dull after a while.
But, yes – as much as I love the series personally, there are things in it that grit my teeth big-time, and I do think it sends out some seriously concerning messages. Not so much about women being wimps (I don't see that as a huge problem in the series), or about domestic violence (I don't get that as the message of the series at all – on the contrary, the message is very strongly that you're expected to control your strength and your temper and *not* hurt others), but about self-esteem and normal behaviour and relationships.
For example: If you're unhappy with your looks, or have low self-esteem generally, then the way to deal with it isn't to learn to believe that you're really worth something after all; it's to aim to become supernaturally beautiful by means of doing something that will harm your life permanently and irrevocably. Oh, and true love will then make it all work out.
If someone who's treated you badly threatens to commit suicide if you leave him, the right thing to do is to run round doing everything you can think of to stop him, even at considerable personal risk and sacrifice. (And it'll all end happily, because, of course, the only reason he left you was because he reeeeaaaaaallly loves you.)
If a man tells you that he's dangerous to be around, keep hanging around him anyway. True leeerrrrvve will make it all work out.
And, of course – what does real love feel like? Well, it's this all-consuming obsessive hero-worshipping infatuation with someone so perfect that all you can do is feel inferior by contrast. And, faced with a choice between that kind of love and love of someone with whom you have fun and feel relaxed and happy and know you've got a real future with, you go for the obsessive hero-worship, no contest. This series isn't encouraging girls to hold out for real love; it's encouraging them to throw over real love because it doesn't feel like the kind of awestruck perfection that Meyer describes.
Now, of *course* I know that all this is a) fiction and b) daft enough to be worth ignoring. And of *course* I'll do everything I can to make sure my daughter (and son) grows up with a much more realistic view of what relationships are meant to be about, and much more in the way of self-esteem. What I'm worried about is all the other girls out there who haven't the knowledge of life that I have or the mother that my children have. The girls who don't have the know-how to counteract the message of these books. I was tremendously saddened to read Lainey's comment, above, but I wasn't at all surprised by it. This was exactly the sort of thing I feared about the series and the messages it gives young girls.

I'm going to have to weigh in with an umpopular opinion here, but first let me say: I love most paranormal romances, and many of the books I read are filled with power-dynamics similar to the Twilight books.
HOWEVER, the books I read are targeted at adult women, not impressionable young girls. That's a BIG problem.
My son (at 14 1/2) has read the first book and stopped because he was freaked out by the creepy-controlling behavior of Edward. He knows of several girls who have ended up staying with abusive boyfriends SPECIFICALLY because they behave like Edward, to the extent that they are citing examples, word for word from the books as justifications for the illegal and abusive actions.
I know of several OTHER girls whose parents are dealing with the fall-out from the exact same situations; younger girl, dark broody older boy who is 'just like my very own Edward' until 'he broke my jaw' or 'he sat outside my bedroom window all night for two weeks' or 'I quit my job at the sporting goods store because he didn't like that I had to talk to guys'.
Beyond that, the book is poorly written. It grates on my nerves to read such badly constructed writing. Not only is her writing bad, the editing is horrible. The books feel like fan fiction that was rushed to press. One of the younger girls I know wrote a paper on vampire stories for English. The quotes from Twilight cost her so many grammar marks that she had to bring in the book to show her teacher that she hadn't misquoted. Once she was no longer penalized for Meyer's butchery of the written word, her paper went from a low B to a high A.
Sure, the world she created is interesting and she has a fresh take on vampires. True, star-crossed lovers will always be fascinating and romantic. But the book has serious and important problems. It shouldn't have been published without a great deal more technical work and it should NEVER have been marketed as a young adult/children's series. Just because the characters don't have sex before marriage doesn't make it appropriate for 12 and 13 year old girls.
That said, most of the people I personally know that love it are adult women, not young girls. Many of my issues with the series do not apply to those readers.

I haven't read the books--YET--so I can't really make any intelligent or informed commentary on the matter.
All I do know, however, is that this feminist would happily give up her autonomy for, oh, say three or four hours just to spend a night with that Robert Pattinson (with the Edward hair, of course). I mean, GOOD LORD, when he stares at me with those bedroom eyes with that "come hither look" from those tabloids in the grocery aisle, I am always *this close* to making out with his picture.

I read the first two, and just couldn't manage to pick up the third to read it. And I normally obsess over reading/collecting an entire series, and I adore young adult literature, and any and all types of fantasy and vampire stories. But, I just couldn't connect with these even though I actually really wanted to, and I started reading them with the thought I would love them! But I didn't enjoy her style of writing (at all), I didn't get Edward, and Bella just made me roll my eyes. So, I am disappointed that I totally DO NOT LIKE these books. *shrug*

Oh hell yes! In fact, I'll even qualify my first comment and take out the "to some extent"--because as escapist fantasies go, now that I reflect on it, that seems perfectly feminist to me: a woman holding out for a man who will see her for exactly the strong and amazing woman she is, none of this pretend to not be able to throw a ball or talk-dumb-because-boys-don't-like-smart-girls bullshit, but her as herself--and still make her knees weak. Not settling. Not being less than she is so that her man can feel like more than he is, or letting him decide whom he wants her to be and then doing whatever she can to be that. Being seen, understood, and desired just as she is, in all her strength/stubbornness/refusal to fit the mold/refusal to mirror back to him what she thinks he wants to see. And wanting him right back.
(Whenever I heard, "guys feel threatened by girls who blah blah whatever I was doing," I was always like, "well, if he's wussy enough to be threatened by that, he's obviously of no use to me." And I didn't even know I was a feminist back then. :-)
So yeah, I totally get what you're saying. Eh, maybe Edward's just not my type--I like 'em tall and craggy. But yeah, that Grande Passion thing, that squiggly uneven breath uncertainty longing thing that only ever happens at the beginning of a relationship is something you don't realize you're never going to have again in real life until one day you're happily married and have no intention of ever starting a relationship again...sigh.
Okay, gonna go watch a Criminal Minds rerun now. :-)

@Jennifer - I like this line "what-a-strong-woman-really-wants-is-a-seriously-even-stronger-man". I confess I never thought about it like that before but it can be so true. I'm as feminist as they come, but I would be lying if I said that weak men turn me on... cuz they do NOT. Being Man-Handled is one of my biggest turn-ons, so that's why this whole series was like soft-core porn to me.

Sigh...I wanted to like it, really I did. And to some extent I have no problem with the "anti-feminist" escapist what-a-strong-woman-really-wants-is-a-seriously-even-stronger-man fantasy...
But I have to confess I just got...bored. (So far I've only read the first book.) The first few chapters were really interesting, and then there were pages and pages of helovesmehelovesmenot, and eventually there was vampire baseball and the Big Bad Hunter Dude, but I just felt like it was some potentially interesting characters in search of a plot. (Okay, and the whole sparkly thing didn't do it for me either.) Made me think of how my high school English teachers would hand me back my papers with notes that said, "VG but twice as long as it needs to be. Edit to half the length and hand back in." Meyer could have cut massive numbers of pages and words without losing any real content, and I wish she had...
I personally would rather drool over Thomas Gibson in Criminal Minds for my own escapist fantasy needs...but that's maybe just me. (Okay, hang on a sec while I indulge...God, that man is gorgeous. And he could totally teach Edward something about brooding.)(Okay, I'm back.)
Anyway, KUDOS for standing up and saying that you like the series. :-) You're a brave woman.

LMAO. I have no moral issues with it or it's messages. Hell, I'm really not one to judge considering I've never read the books or seen the movie. I think I know, based on my extremely addictive tendencies, that if I even allow myself to get involved with the series, I just might end up like all of my friends I lovingly make fun of ; )

I read the series after my sister convinced me to and I liked it. It's a fantastic fantasy that is inspiring to those who just want to be loved, and isn't that most everyone? Just looking for our place in the world? How that is going to warp the minds of young girls into choosing to fold laundry and be Susie-Homemaker, rather than educate themselves and be aware baffles me.

I think I need to read this series.

I wish we could afford a trainer to sculpt me into an Edward type look. I'd like to be "rubbed." Damn fictional characters! Such tough competition.

I love the series too...the movie, not so much.
The only thing I find fault with is the idea that some dark handsome piano playing creature is going to come along and sweep every doting adoring awkward teenager girls off their feet.
It's not realistic. But then again, it might make them hold out for 'true love'...hopefully it's not with a dude who says he's a vampire.

I am also a Huge Fan and a Huge Feminist(complete with feminist tattoo). While I ca see the 'anti-feminist' side of the series, pretty much anything can have that slant added to it. I see Edward as kind of frail, emotionally distraught and torn between his nature and not wanting to injure the one he loves. He does try to control her 'for her protection' but she also defies him and goes against his protection and does what she wants, NOT what HE wants. Bella is suicidal at one point, but that has to do with a broken heart. I'm a big ol' lesbian and have felt pretty damned close to this at a break up, or even a prospective one. Does that make me less of a feminist? No. It makes me human. I also use my heart more than my head. Anyway- I just wanted to share that you aren't the only feminist fan of the series. However, i'm all about 'Team Jacob'!!

I love the Twilight series too. Seriously looove it. I've heard the feminist arguments and I too thought umm it's a book, a work of fiction - you know, that which is not true. I'll be going to see New Moon and I'll be owning it on DVD as soon as it is available. Team Edward! ;)

I've read the first three. It's like a trainwreck, I can't take my eyes away.
I totally get why young impressionable girls would be all over this. It's dreamy and fantastic and Edward is peeerfect. On the other hand, I actually think it's not really that well written, both Edward and Bella are total Mary Sues (a beginner's error where the characters are totally perfect except for like, one flaw) and their relationship is ridiculously dysfunctional. And that's ignoring the whole undead thing. I am not saying ban the books or anything, but when discussing them with young impressionable girls I try to slip in the whole relationship dynamic... and usually they're totally unaware of it. So maybe these books are doing the world a favour by inviting a conversation about boundaries and healthy relationships? The discussion is important, imo.