I Hate To Break it to You, But Feminists Are Political

Nov 04th 2012

With the election quickly approaching, I’ve been posting plenty of political articles on my facebook page. But to my surprise, many of my followers are either completely disinterested in politics, or are actively offended that someone like me would find them important.

Almost invariably, any time I post something regarding election politics, someone jumps in and says,

“Why are you discussing politics on this page? What does the election have to do with feminism?!?!”

And I’m all,

“BAAAAA haa haa. Oh, that’s hilarious.

Oh wait… YOU’RE SERIOUS?!?! Holy shit.”

Okay, this is really simple. This might actually be one of the simplest explanations to a defensive question I’ve ever had to unpack for people on my page. It goes like this:

If it weren’t for feminists, you wouldn’t even have the right to vote.

Ergo, how can feminism NOT be political?

Make no mistake, these voting rights weren’t given to us after a few polite requests. Women in the US fought for over 100 years to secure the right to cast their vote. They were arrested and jailed, beaten and tortured, simply for wanting to have a say in politics. Who were the women who sacrificed their lives for this cause? They were feminists.

If that simple logic isn’t enough then ask the Feminist Majority Foundation what they think feminism means. They say:

“Feminism (is) the policy, practice or advocacy of political, economic, and social equality for women.”

I think that makes it pretty clear.

But perhaps the folks who were complaining about my political posts weren’t really so bothered by the fact that they were political. Their feathers were probably more ruffled over the candidate I’m supporting, which happens to be our incumbent President. I’m not here to tell anyone who to vote for, but considering just how anti-feminist the Romney/Ryan ticket is, it certainly does baffle me that anyone hanging around a feminist page could admit to voting for him.

Consider his record:

He thinks gay people shouldn’t be allowed to marry.

He thinks gay people shouldn’t have children.

He thinks women shouldn’t have control over their body.

He thinks 47% of the country take no responsibility for their lives, which probably includes YOU, even though you may not realize it.

He wants to get rid of FEMA and thinks storm relief should be “private.”

He lied about seeking out those “binders full of women.”

He campaigned on the backs of storm victims and faked “donations” for political gain.

His running mate has just as much experience faking assistance for the poor in the name of political gain.

He successfully avoided paying his fair share of taxes through creative accounting, but doesn’t think there’s anything wrong with that. As long as you’re rich. If you’re poor and don’t pay taxes, you’re “taking no responsibility for your life.”

He admits he has no plan whatsoever for bettering the country or the economy.

As a feminist who subscribes to the fundamental principles of feminism (which is, basically, wanting humane and equal treatment for ALL people) his opinions and positions offend me. So, ya know, that’s why I think he shouldn’t be President of the United States and stuff. I would think that wouldn’t be too difficult to understand and, at the very least, shouldn’t shock the people who follow my page. But my facebook followers never cease to amaze me.

For the record, I think Obama has done the best job possible with the mess he was given. It took the last Republican Administration eight years to dig us a trillion dollar deficit. I would expect it to take us at least that long to recover.

So, let’s just recap:

Feminism is political. Feminists are often progressive. When people vote for rich white tax-evading men who admit to disliking poor people or gay people and lie about hiring women, I will call their feminist politics into question.

Any questions?

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26 Responses to “I Hate To Break it to You, But Feminists Are Political”

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    Amen. Nuff said.



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    And respect an individual woman’s voting choice.   It’s gotten a little too fashionable to shame and ridicule women voters in a way that men never experience.



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      @ElizabethCholet Oh, trust me, gay men voting for Romney get the same side-eye from me. Makes no sense whatesoever.



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        @TheFeministBreeder  @ElizabethCholet I am pretty hostile to any man who wants to vote away my control of my uterus, actually.



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        @TheFeministBreeder  I’m not sure why it should be inconceivable that a gay person would vote for Romeny (or any candidate who is opposed to marriage). There are politically conservative gay people. I think there is a push to guilt certain groups into being single issue voters. If you’re gay and vote Romney you are betraying the cause is the message and that’s wrong. It’s just as stupid as catholics who agree with Obama on almost everything else but refuse to vote for him because he is pro-choice.



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          @haleymarie I can’t tell if you’re being serious, so I’ll assume you are. Seriously? He thinks gay people shouldn’t have the same rights that straight people have. He thinks gay people shouldn’t be allowed to have children. I could not EVER vote for a candidate who thinks that I shouldn’t be allowed to get married or have kids. That would be like punching myself repeatedly in the face. I’m SURE there are some gay people voting for him. And no, it makes NO sense. Unless they’re masochists.



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          @TheFeministBreeder I wouldn’t either, but I don’t assume that everyone has the same priorities as me. And I don’t think it makes someone a masochist if they have different priorities than me. There are a great many very important issues this cycle. To an extent whom to vote for will always be a choice between two evils. There will never be a politician that you agree with 100% on every single thing. If you tell me that there is not one single thing big or small that the president has done or supported that you don’t agree with than you are either lying or have no independent thought process. That’s why most people vote for the candidate that MOST fits their ideals. The things that are dealbreakers for you don’t have to be the same for everyone.



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          @haleymarie I think basic human and civil rights are not just a “priority” for some people. I think they should be a priority for ALL people. And if they’re not a priority for you, then yep, you still get my side-eye. Do I agree with everything Obama has ever said or done. Nope, not even. But does he violate my basic human and civil rights as a person? NOPE. I think it’s absolutely masochistic to vote for a person who would violate my human and civil rights. Makes no sense. None.



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          @TheFeministBreeder I am assuming then that you did not vote for him in 2008 when he did not support marriage equality?



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          @haleymarie Actually, I wanted HILLARY in 2008. When my choices became between Sarah Heart-beat Away From the Presidency Palin or The Community Organizer, I chose the Community Organizer. And I chose wisely because he repealed Don’t Ask Don’t Tell and is in FAVOR of Marriage Equality. Is there any chance the Romney/Ryan will change their position to support same-sex marriage during his term? None. None at all.



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          @TheFeministBreeder I would have proffered Hillary in 2008 too :) I don’t think Sarah Palin was ever even remotely close to the presidency though. McMain was waaaay doomed by the time he picked her. I am not saying Obama has done a bad job on gay rights as president, I really do think he has done as much as any president to can do to advance gay rights. But, in 2008, he was firmly against gay marriage and many people (and probably many gay people too) voted for him because you are right, he was the lesser of two evils. They weren’t masochists.



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          @haleymarie  @TheFeministBreeder Voting for Romney and claiming that you do it for his fiscal policies (or whatever) is telling gay people that you value your wallet (or whatever) more than basic human rights. No, that is not a “choice” or “priority” we all have to respect.



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          @moremadder  @TheFeministBreeder I think one of the biggest problems in american politics is a great many people do not respect that fact that reasonable people can disagree. You should respect the appropriately delivered opinions of others. I hear you complain about people who rage and make mean, offensive comments and wonder why them read here. It seems to me though that a politely delivered different opinion is not welcome either. Don’t worry, I won’t post again. There are forums where thoughtful discussion is encouraged and those where people only want to hear from people who agree with them. This is the later.



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          @TheFeministBreeder  @haleymarie Um, I think Romney would change *any* of his positions at any time if he stood to benefit…which is *my* biggest problem with him.



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          @haleymarie  I’m confused. So because I don’t agree with you (you read my blog, you already KNEW I wouldn’t agree with you, so this shouldn’t be shocking) then I’m not allowing different opinions on my page? How so? Your comment is here. What exactly do you expect me to do? Am I supposed to say, “Oh, what you said just contradicts everything I said, but since you’re a guest, I totally agree with you now.” You’re allowed to disagree, and so am I. That’s a two-way street. Don’t get all shitty with me and start attacking me because I’m not changing my mind to suit you.



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          @haleymarie
          Did your comment get deleted? How is this not a thoughtful and polite discussion? Because I tell you that valuing anything over basic human rights is not a choice I can respect, you get so offended you have to take your toys and go home?



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          @TheFeministBreeder Please go show me where I said anything against marriage equality or did anything but agree with the president on his handling of gay issues. Where I disagree with you is the suggestion that no gay person could possibly vote for Romney without somehow betraying the cause.



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    I live in the UK, never been to the states, but have been loosely following this election, mainly because i think it will effect us here in SOME way, how i couldn’t say, but i am sure it will (my Dp doesn’t get that however). Anyway, i digress, i am STUNNED people think feminism ISN’T a political issues?! I dislike Romney, purely because i am a humanist, i believe we all have the same rights as each other and as long as nobody is dying from what your doing, live and let live, Romney takes away that very principle from a LOT of people, he says gay people can’t have a family? WHY? It simply does not compute with me……..same as his stance on women’s body’s and things, HUH? Does he HAVE a vagina? No well NO SAY on anyone else’s!!!! Just what i have picked up anyway



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    You rock, Gina. That is all.



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    Hell yeah!!!!



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    I know that you and I are on opposite sides of the abortion issue, and I’m really not trying to start a debate about it but share kind of my point of view of why it can affect my vote.  And honestly, the abortion issue is not my one issue determining for whom I cast my vote.  
     
    Anyway, I believe that a human person is created at conception (again not trying to make a debate about this but more so you can see where I am coming from), so I believe that abortion is a human rights violation.  Gay rights is a human and civil rights issue, but for me so is abortion.  Voting for a candidate is very hard for me because I am split on a lot of social issues via the parties so I often look toward the issues other than the social issues.
     
    I enjoy your posts.  Some topics I agree with you wholeheartedly but even the issues that I disagree with you on, you give me an intelligent perspective that makes me think about my positions.



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      @cbreeding I understand that many people believe that life begins at conception. And I have a great deal of respect for pregnancy from the moment it occurs (I’m a birth worker, of course I respect that.) The problem is that that life is inside of another walking, talking, breathing, living human being. Women do not simply become womb pods the moment they become pregnant. They still exist, and their health and well-being trumps anything else going on inside of her. The law specifically says that no human being can be forced to sacrifice their body to keep another being alive. A person cannot be forced to give up their kidney to save another human being. Courts have ruled over and over on this. And that’s for people who are already born, living in this world with social security numbers, etc. As long as people remember that a pregnant woman is the living, breathing, walking, talking human being in this equation, it shouldn’t be hard to see that abortion access for HER is a human rights issue. We all have the right to bodily autonomy. That means we can choose what to do with our bodies. If a woman feels that a pregnancy is not right for her and her body, that choice must be respected. Anything else is simply morality policing. And as the saying goes, if you don’t like abortion, don’t have one.



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      @cbreeding I’m pro-choice in the sense that I don’t believe the government has any business regulating medical decisions, but pro-life in the sense that I agree with you that life begins at conception and abortion grieves me deeply. One of things that I focus on in my voting choices though is who’s policies have the greatest chance of reducing the number of abortions outside making them illegal. I’m talking about policies that we KNOW have reduced abortion rates in the last decade such as comprehensive sex education and access to birth control.



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      @cbreeding I believe that life begins at conception, too. But I’m pro-choice, for the reasons very cogently put by the FB in her reply above. But did you know that banning abortion actually won’t save any unborn babies, according to all the research? You know what does save unborn babies. Birth control. Obamacare is expected to reduce aboryions by 75%. Lucky Obama won, huh? Here’s a great article from a former anti-abortion activist, about this : http://www.rhrealitycheck.org/article/2012/10/30/how-i-lost-faith-in-%E2%80%9Cpro-life%E2%80%9D-movement-1



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        @moremadder OMG I am so glad someone from you viewpoint finally said that! You’re absolutely right that’s just common sense :) <3



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    What irks me most about the typical “pro-life” stance is that the sole concern seems to be on the child being born. As Sister Joan Chittister put it, “But I do not believe that just because you’re opposed to abortion that that makes you pro-life. In fact, I think in many cases, your morality is deeply lacking. If all you want is a child born but not a child fed, not a child educated, not a child housed, and why would I think that you don’t? Because you don’t want any tax money to go there. That’s not pro-life. That’s pro-birth. We need a much broader conversation on what the morality of what pro-life is.”
     
    I feel strongly about the sanctity of life, but I believe that we need to support that life once it comes into the world. Moreover, the question to have an abortion is difficult, and nuance. If it were to become illegal, more women and children would surely die, and so the choice needs to be available.



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