Our Family’s First Nurse-In, Complete with News Coverage

Jun 03rd 2011

Earlier this week, a Dekalb area mom was harassed at a shop called “No Strings Attached” for breastfeeding her baby.  The shop owner berated her and then told her to leave, which is an absolute violation of The Illinois Right to Breastfeed Act, signed into law almost seven years ago.  The law in this state even goes so far as to allow the nursing mother the right to bring legal action against any business owner who tries to infringe on her right.

But that’s not the way the shop owner saw it.  He decided his property rights outweighed this mom’s civil rights, so when a group of about 40 moms and dads showed up in front of the store for a Nurse-In on June 2nd, the owner’s friend stood out front with a counter-protest sign.

I took myself, my nursling, and my two boys on the hour-long ride out to Dekalb so I could show my support for the cause, and even created an event on the TFB Facebook page to help the organizers spread the word.  We all met up at a hippy-dippy coffee shop called The House Cafe, situated across the street from the offending store.  We were met by police officers who stopped traffic so that we could all cross the street to the store.

When I spotted the store owner’s friend and his counter-protest sign, I decided that we needed to have a little chat.  I walked over and informed him that his position was a violation of the mother’s legal rights, and a little shouting match broke out wherein he tried to argue that he has the right to run his business however he wanted, and I explained that he does not have the right to violate the law.  He said the law was “wrong” and I explained that this shop owner’s opinion of the law didn’t matter, and his behavior could get him sued.  Then he said “But CHRISTIANS come in here!” and I said “JESUS WAS BREASTFED”. Then, he shouted some more stuff about “respect” and I tried to get him to read what the law says, which he refused to do, because he didn’t care about the law anyway. 

The news outlets were there, and they caught the whole event on camera, including me yellin’ a whole bunch. *ROAR*

Here’s the WGN News story…

And here’s the Chicago Tribune video story…

Here are my little partners in protest, standing in front of the neighboring Chilton’s Sporting Goods, which proudly displayed their respect for nursing moms in their window:

Here’s a good picture of the crowd. You’ll see moms, dads, babies of all ages, and even some supporters without children.

Here’s me wearing my little Jolene, who slept through the entire protest (except when she half-opened one eye to sleep feed).

So what did we accomplish?  Well, we certainly raised public awareness, but did we change the owners mind?  Nope. He is still quoted in the Daily Chronicle saying, “When someone is exposing their breast in my store … I am going to ask them to cover up regardless of what their rights are, it’s inappropriate to be exposed.” When the Daily Chronicle reporter specifically asked him about the IL state law, the shop owner replied, “I am called to a higher law than that. It’s called the Bible. It’s called purity and family-oriented. Respect.”

Well, I’m sure a lawyer, a judge, and a settlement might show him that his biblical law isn’t “higher” than the laws on the IL books.  The shop owner argued that he’s got property rights, but property rights END when they discriminate against others.  Business owners do NOT necessarily have the right to refuse service to anyone, especially a group whose rights NOT to be discriminated against are specifically written into law.

This is the year 2011.  One woman at the protest said she was attending Nurse-Ins thirty years ago.  Will my grown children be attending Nurse-Ins in another thirty years?

If so, they got plenty of experience today.

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You NEEEEED one of these in your area!

It's appalling when someone violates another's rights. I'm looking forward to the day when breastfeeding is widely practiced and accepted, so that mothers don't have to deal with idiots like this when they're feeding their babies.

The phrase, "At what cost??" brought tears to my eyes. Okay Jackass, what's the "cost" of continuing to force mom's to nurse their babies at home, in a restroom, or in a car?? Mom's who don't breastfeed because they're embarrassed, ashamed, or inconvenienced. And a much unhealthier society. Oh wait! We already have all those things!

A little late giving my two cents worth, but I feel it necessary to add: As a Christian, this man is making ME look bad! The Bible clearly states that we are to respect the laws and pray for our lawmakers. We are also to show respect for whomever makes the laws or enforces them, so our president, our police officers, etc. He is completely misconstruing what the Bible says, and is actually adhering to the idea that boobs=sexual objects only. His arguments are full of holes. I hate that anyone was treated the way he treated this woman and the ones of you who went to the nurse-in. And I'm especially sorry that he used the Bible to try to defend his actions, especially when the Bible says the exact opposite of what he was saying.

I'm a conservative Christian, and sheesh, stuff like that is so embarrassing. Yes, the Bible is a higher law than any civil law, but the Bible says NOTHING against public breastfeeding! The Bible is filled to the brim with breastfeeding stories and metaphors, and practice in biblical times was to breastfeed to age 3 or 4. It would be more biblical if he didn't allow bottle feeding (not that he should, but it would be closer to the mark). Sheesh.

You know, it occurs to me that there are plenty of people who would be more "comfortable" if I were to cover my head in public. It could, in fact, be a matter of purity, respect, and obeying a higher law to such a person. But can you imagine someone demanding that a woman cover her head or leave his place of business? I wonder what Mr. Rapp would think of someone exercising their "personal civil liberties" in such a way.

At first when I heard of people having problems w/ breastfeeding their babies in public, I thought that Americans just don't like boobs. Clearly however this is not so, as any walk past a magazine rack in any "family friendly" grocery store will tell you. The problem with this country is not that we don't like boobs. We love boobs. We just freak out when they are being used for their intended purpose.

You go girl. Sadly, as long as breasts are considered forbidden and sexual in the public's eye, I think breastfeeding will always be considered lewd in some people's minds.

What's ironic is that the Bible doesn't say anything about breastfeeding. I believe in and study the Bible and the closest it gets to commenting on this situation is asking women to dress modestly, I do think you can nurse in public (I'm a nursing mama) and still be modest about it. Most of the mamas I saw in the video were very modest in my opinion . . . the other thing the Bible says is to respect and honor the laws the government puts in place unless they are a direct violation of God's laws as outlined in the Bible (for example, if the a government law says you are not allowed to worship God than according to the Bible you do no have to follow it BUT, you are still subject to the consequences of that decision). This guy is way off base and gives a bad name to Christians.

Gina, i love your sling! where did you find it, and does your baby bf in it? i am looking for a way to wear and bf my baby at the same time--she doesn't like doing it in the moby wrap, though. :( any tips?

What an ignorant man! If he wants to treat people like this, then he will definitely be out of business soon. I really wish I could have been there with you awesome ladies and gentlemen, babies and toddlers, with my little nursling. I nurse in public and not always with a cover. I don't want to have to carry two bags everywhere I go. And I'M A CHRISTIAN!! So his argument about the fact that Christians shop at his store is completely irrelevant and a ridiculous argument to use. I wish you all the best treatment wherever you choose to nurse your little ones!

I am a born-again Christian and I LOVE Jesus, and the views that man expressed do not, in my opinion, honor what the Bible teaches on the subject! Obviously, the storeowner has fallen into the world's sexualized view of breasts(completely ungodly, in my opinion!) So glad you were there to protest! As a follower of Christ, I just want you to know I think his behavior was completely outrageous!

Hahaha Jesus was breastfed! That is so awesomely true!

::sigh:: Christians who argue that public breastfeeding is indecent are so off. I am a christian and a lactivist and wrote a note on FB - http://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=10150122740028817) that is all scripture on breastfeeding. In scripture breastfeeding is described as a blessing, comforting, nurturing, beautiful, Gods Love..ect ect. never is it called indecent, perverse or anything negative. That is some perverts slant on it, not God's. In this scripture God even tells the nursing mothers to go to a public event with their nursing babes, obviously supporting nursing publicly! Joel 2:16
"Gather the people, consecrate the assembly; bring together the elders, gather the children, those nursing at the breast. Let the bridegroom leave his room and the bride her chamber."

What is really sad is that he claims he is following the Bible, but he is completely misunderstanding it if he really thinks it is Biblical to not breastfeed in public. I am sure there were other people at the nurse-in who are also Christians... he can't say, "But Christians come in my store!" and expect that to be a defense when there are plenty of Christians who would have no problem with a breastfeeding mother in public! Maybe somebody should take him into a Catholic church in which there is an image of Mary nursing baby Jesus, or even better, to the Our Lady of La Leche shrine in St. Augustine, FL, and show him that... although perhaps he is of a variety of Christians who thinks Catholics aren't Christians anyway... I wouldn't be surprised. Really, it is most likely based on the culture in which he was raised, resulting in his defensiveness, sadly.

This is one of those issues that just makes me so angry. Here is the Trib article:

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/ct-met-public-breast-feed-20110602,0,958909.story

Some of the comments are good. Many others are just terrible.

I nurse my 10 month old baby whenever and wherever she becomes hungry. I don't do it for attention, I do it because I'm out of the house and the baby is hungry. I don't do it in the car because it's 85 degrees and hot and the car won't cool down before she's overheated, sweaty and crying. I don't like the idea of anyone seeing my breasts, so I nurse discreetly (but without a cover, because I have never been able to get a baby to do anything but complain or pull the cover off, and I think covers draw more attention). Just leave me alone. All I'm doing is feeding my baby. She's hungry, and I have the food.

It just makes me so angry - people are so ignorant about what breastfeeding is really like, and about the realities of the differences between different babies' and mothers' needs.

I carry two copies of my state's breastfeeding laws in my purse at all times, so that I can pull it out if ever needed. But I shouldn't feel like I have to do that.

This is terrible in so many ways. (The store owner, not the nurse-in.) I read through some comments on the news article last night...And some of them are just so ignorant. I love that they've put a time limit on when it WOULD have been appropriate for her to nurse the baby (like if she had a newborn, not an 11 month old). My second child did not even start solids until she was 9.5 months old. She took a bottle for a short time (I introduced expressed milk in a bottle so I could leave the house without her on occasion or let her spend the night at my mom's - we lived on the same street), but around 3.5 months stopped taking a bottle at all. I attempted solids at 6 months...And by 7 months I gave up. She reached for my spoon for the first time at 9 months, and wasn't really COMPLETELY okay with solids until closer to 10 months. A point when I could just sit her down & feed her without making it a big ordeal. SO...I pretty much only had the option of breastfeeding to that point. And in public after that age...I couldn't always sit her down, put the bib on and start spoon feeding. It was MUCH EASIER to let her nurse b/c I didn't even have to stop what I was doing.

Point is...Every baby is different. I have had friends say that I shouldn't have nursed in public past 6 months. My baby didn't eat solids at 6 months (we tried very hard! but she refused!). Or they commented that once babies had teeth they didn't need to nurse anymore. Okay...Then with BOTH of my kids I'd have had to nurse at LEAST 11 months...cuz their teeth didn't show up until that point...and my favorite, "IF they can ask for it, they're old enough to stop." My babies could "ask" for milk by 5 or 6 months old. We used baby sign...and had a sign for milk/nurse. My second would "ask" by climbing my lap, burying her face in my cleavage and motor boating. She could do that by 7 months.

No one else should get to decide when or how I feed my baby. That is up to me & the baby (and maybe baby's dad...if he's involved in the feeding process).

Hi, first of all thanks to all the ladies who went out there yesterday to support breastfeeding, I think that is wonderful.
I grew up in Florida and was just there last week. I wonder what would happen if I had a conversation with the Florida governor. I explained to him just how offended I was that when I was on the FLorida beaches, I saw women in thongs, and see through swimsuits. I even saw nipples! I am fairly sure the governor would explain to me that this is a public beach.. If I dont LIKE what goes on there, I have two choices, I can leave or I can avert my eyes. This is what I suggest people do who are offended by a nursing mother
I breastfed all 8 of my children. I loved every minute of breastfeeding. Good for you ladies, thanks again!

As a Christian and a nursing mother, that makes me so sad! I'm shocked at the store owner's response and unwillingness to listen to reason.

"God's Law" doesn't say that women shouldn't breastfeed in public. Issues about decency could be argued, but I highly doubt the mother in question pulled out her boob and chose to wander around half-naked and nursing. C'mon, guy... Let's get some perspective here. Nursing is a beautiful thing. Personally, I choose to find a discrete corner and use a nursing cover - more for my own sanity and privacy.

Go mama! I'm so glad you were so well spoken and direct. You did it for all of us.

I bet the store-owner would not have minded for a young woman to come into his store wearing a tiny little tank and showing most of her breasts! Hell, you see more breasts on the cover of magazines walking through a store than from a mother nursing her child. His issue are not about respect or the Bible, he obviously has deeper personal issues.

He is just jealous that he can't have some. Sexually frustrated. Really

What gets me is that in the bible (I supoose I could look up WHERE if you need me to) it says you are to respect and obey the laws of the land/government. For that man to claim he answers to a "higher law" and then ignores THAT part of the bible that tells him to OBEY the laws of the people is ignorance and hypocricy

GO TFB!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Stand your ground girlfriend! This is awesome. Mother's should not have to "use a restroom" to breastfeed their babies. It's completely natural and a part of life. Get used to it people!

People like this make me sick, seriously. If you're going to use the Bible in an argument, reading it is probably a good idea first! What a tool. He'll most certainly lose business for being so stupid. I wonder how much porn this guy looks at....and breastfeeding is offensive? Please dude, your stupid face is offensive.

I just never fail to be amazed. And sad. and a little tired. So wearysome that mamas have to depend on law to feed their babies.

*Mentally smack storeowner upside the head* The Bible repeatedly says to "live at peace" with others and to respect the authority of the law of the land. Never does it say to be rude to someone & kick them out of your store for doing something natural that makes you uncomfortable. *sigh* I get tired of people who use "religion" as an excuse for something that makes them uncomfortable. That's not what it's about at all.

In other news: Nurse-in! Awesome! I read the facebook note out loud to my husband and he's totally on board that the first nurse-in nearest to us: we're going! (Even though we are still happily newlywed and baby-less he's really gotten on board with everything to the point where he points out baby-wearing mothers and sends me articles about NCB and breastfeeding law! Get them trained early.... ;-) ) Good for ya'll for going: while the one mind was not changed it did raise awareness about both breastfeeding AND the law in your state protecting it!

News flash, dude: Breastfeeding whenever baby is hungry has been done by Christians since the beginning of Christianity. I feel like our christian nation is becoming MORE prude as time goes on.

He's asking for "respect"? In the past, breastfeeding women were always respected. Why do we have to fight for it now?

I agree with commenters above ^ Breastfeeding most definitely is the most pure and family-oriented thing ever!

Gina you rock!! Well done to all of you. I am a christian too and think that the owner of the shop has some serious issues....

Oh i wish I had found out about it earlier, I only live about 45 minutes away. My 14mo octopus would have LOVED to nurse at a nurse in. (heck this kid nurses ANYWHERE). I would have shown up with a sign that had one of those medieval art paintings on it w/ Mary breastfeeding Jesus. (even though I'm not Catholic or Christian! it still makes a good point)

Kudos to standing up for that mama!!

I've been all over facebook about this, so you know how much I think you rock, but I'm curious: What was the reaction from your boys to this? I know they obviously think nursing is an everyday thing. Did they understand what was going on?

I hope 30 years from now nursing will be normalized to the point that we don't need to have nurse-in's anymore. But with laws being passed like the one in Georgia and people like this who simply decide that "The law is wrong." I'm not sure that's going to happen. :-/ Maybe...one day...

I also wonder if the men who were counter-protesting realized what they were saying as they told everyone that he should be able to choose who he allows in his store. Would they think to replace "nursing moms" with "women" or "black people" or "Canadians". Would another group in our stead sound more ridiculous? Or does he really just feel that discrimination is ok?

EXACTLY! Even if this had nothing to do with nursing, babies, women...And he told a Canadian, "Oh! Ew! GROSS! Cover yourself or get out of my store!" ...I'm pretty sure no one would be on that news article in the comments section defending him.

Argh when will people move beyond this ignorance?! When I was nursing my babies I always felt weird about nursing in public but I did it, discreetly. It was what my kid needed and it was my right. Nursing women aren't exactly shaking the girls like they're looking for beads on Bourbon St. There are shirts, blankets, slings...all kinds of things that help us do it discreetly. It's not rocket science. I remember getting negative comments from people I thought were the most enlightened, accepting folks on the planet. Old hippy guys...not as free as they ought to be!

and BTW there was no baby formula in Biblical times...what's this guy thinking?!

"Nursing women aren’t exactly shaking the girls like they’re looking for beads on Bourbon St." HAHA pure awesome!

I find it amusing that he tried to play the religion card. It's not about bare skin. It's about feeding your baby!!!

We should all send the owner depictions of the Virgin Mary breastfeeding Jesus weekly until he publicly apologizes. ;-)

I can't believe the man claimed that the BIBLE is his reason for being against breastfeeding! Does he think they had bottles and formula back in the day? Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure Isaac, Moses, and Jesus were breastfed. Most likely in public and with no blanket over their heads! Arg.

WAIT! What kind of store was it, that the name is, "No Strings Attached?" I must know, because I am laughing up a storm over the possibilities!

Resale... mostly DVDs, music, and video games. Would love to see a list of what it COULD be... ;D

Ugh. That man is an embarassment to christians everywhere. Why is t that people have a problem with something as life affirming as breastfeeding but barely notice anymore thats breasts are exposed all the time on TV. Im proud to say that i breastfeed in church and even more proud that they accept and support it

Thank you SO MUCH for going out there and yellin' for all us nursin' mamas who couldn't be there to yell for ourselves. This guy is just so ignorant. At the end of one of the video pieces, you can hear his friend suggesting that if the protesters want to flash their nipples, there is a pornography shop nearby - making it clear how Mr. Rapp and his supporters see breasts (or probably DON'T see them). ;)

what a boob! that man deserves to have his business go belly up! I hope this Nurse in got so much exposure that people boycott his business, and I hope the woman in question takes her case to legal aid and sues the man-boobs right off of him.

What an ass. I breastfeed IN CHURCH. You know you're a weird religious nut when the CATHOLICS are more progressive than you are.

Ha! "Like." "Fanned & Faved." Whatever the kids over here say these days. Great point!

Love this!!!

Thanks for standing up for Moms, Gina.