Saturday Nurse-In at Frederick MD Mall After Security Harasses Nursing Mother

Jun 02nd 2010

If you live in the area, join mothers this Saturday, June 5th, for a nurse-in at the Francis Scott Key Mall in Frederick MD to show support for a local mother who was harassed for nursing her baby near the mall’s children’s area.  Two mall employees, and another mall patron, joined in criticizing the mother, asking her to leave the location, implying that she was corrupting the children.

Maryland state law is on the mother’s side.  According to the Maryland Department of Family Health and Mental Hygiene:

“A mother has the right to breastfeed wherever she goes with her baby. No particular legislation should be needed to protect the right of mothers to breastfeed in public. However, legislation has been enacted in nearly half of the states in the U.S. (including Maryland) in order to clarify that right, and to provide remedy for mothers told to stop breastfeeding in public. In 2003, Maryland passed legislation regarding breastfeeding in public.

The law states that:

  • A mother may breastfeed her child in any public or private location in which the mother and child are authorized to be.
  • A person may not restrict or limit the right of a mother to breastfeed her child.

The mother recounts her story, telling of the humiliation she felt after three people, including another mother, told her that breastfeeding her baby in public was wrong.

“On Monday, May 24th, at approximately 10:30am, I was nursing my 3 month old son on a bench in the Francis Scott Key mall near the children’s play area (near Value City and DSW). I had my shirt on and lifted up one side to nurse him. Just the top part of my breast was exposed as I nursed, as my son covered up my stomach and nipple (not that it would matter anyway if I was more exposed). While I was nursing a woman who worked at the mall customer service desk that was nearby came up to me and asked me if I knew that there was a nursing room in the mall. I told her that I was not aware of the nursing room and I continued to nurse. She then asked me if I’d go to the nursing room to nurse. I told her I would not, that I was okay nursing on the bench. She then asked me again to either go to the nursing room or to cover up with a blanket because she was uncomfortable “and there are kids around.” I told her that under MD law I had a right to nurse in any public or private place and that I was not going to either leave to go to the nursing room or put a blanket over my son’s head. I added that if she was uncomfortable, she could cover her head. A mom who was in the play area with her kids then came over and said, “I agree with her – can you please go somewhere else or cover up? My KIDS are here.” I told the mother that I was fully within my rights to remain on the bench and nurse my son. She then replied: “But my son asked me, “Mommy, why is that lady putting her boob in that baby’s mouth?” and I don’t know what to tell him. I told her: “Tell your son that that mom is feeding her baby the way moms have fed their babies for millions of years.” A female security guard came over to me and asked that I either go to the nursing room or cover up with a blanket. I told her that under MD law I had a right to breastfeed in any public or private place. The security guard continued to state, “but this is private property” and I continued to remind her that MD law entitled me to nurse on private property as well. All women eventually left to go complain to the head mall office. I finished nursing about 5 minutes later and then left the mall.

I returned to the mall on Tuesday, May 25th, and dropped off a copy of the MD breastfeeding law (which is linked here: http://fha.maryland.gov/mch/bf_mdlaw.cfm) to the head office. The gentleman in the office told me that a few people complained about me breastfeeding. He said, “I know your rights” but I asked him to advise his employees of the law anyway since obviously they weren’t aware of MD breastfeeding law.”

A Facebook event has been setup to organize the event.  If you go, or know others who are going, please tell us about the experience.

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It blows my mind that something as prehistorically, innately natural as breastfeeding is shunned in public! I am naturally a very modest person but when my baby was nursing a few years ago, of which he did up until 2 years old (a comfort thing I'm sure) I was like 'fuck you guys', I gotta job to do here!

I have made a conscientious effort not to make anything seem taboo with my kids. You need to be honest with your children...if they wanna know why mommies have boobies...tell em! If they wanna know where mommy's wiener is (an actual question btw), tell em! Maybe we'll be raising normal well adjusted human beings rather than little pervs....

I wish my breasts had not gone into retirement or I would be at one of these events. Can the former nursing moms show up with cookies and signs or something.

I nursed both of my children and I am the only one in the family who did it.

All I got was grief about how my breasts would be messed up and how I still had to restrict my diet and how my kids didn't sleep through the night because they were hungry.

However I would not trade nursing for some more sleep. I only wish that the work place had been more supportive of my pumping so I could have gone longer.

Darn! I live near-ish to there. If I'd known I would have gone and supported her! Do you know how successful/unsuccessful the event was?

This is very unfortunate,this mother did not deserve this emabarassment. Common sense did not hit these folks when they harassed this nursing mother. These folks are obviously not paying attention to any sort of news media (i.e. cnn, local newspaper, etc) Breastfeeding is a topic often discussed. Gee, one would think that a mall information rep and security guard would have the general knowledge and understanding about laws protecting the customers they are expected to serve, including those breastfeeding in public, especially since they are in a "customer service" capacity--shame on the guard (mall cop) who also doesn't even know the state-local laws that they're expected to observe/maintain, what a joke. And also, this goes to show how unaware these employees are of their own surroundings, as Frederick Memorial Hospital has a storefront in the mall that provides classes to new mothers, childrearing training, etc. I hope this lady sues for harassment, and that these employees are disciplined as neccessary,

I just wanted to drop a line that my husband, 5 year old son, 4 month old daughter, and I attended this fabulous event this morning. We nursed and nursed and then nursed some more wandering about the playground and nearby stores. We had numerous people asking "What's going on? Is there a contest or something going on?" I had to explain to them the situation and happily received angry protests in favor of the nurse-in. (Yay!)

There were mothers and babes attached to boobs as far as the eye could see! And when our babies were finished nursing, we'd just hold them there for pacification. It was friggin awesome.

The funny thing is that many places aren't "baby-friendly"--meaning, they'd rather you not bring a baby in, say like a restaurant, because they may cry thus irritating other patrons. BUT, in my keen observation today with all of these babies, newborn to 3 years+, I can honestly say I never once heard a real deal cry from any of them. (Now, there were older kids running about doing kid stuff). Furthermore, I just this second asked my hubby if he heard any of the nursed babies cry and to his awe and surprise he said "Not a one! But, that's not fair because they all had boobs in their mouths." My reply: "My point exactly."

I wanted to say that I am very impressed by FSK management for responding. For non-marylanders - this is a very small mall that has been around and for years (and years) and it is amazing that it is still alive.

As someone that lives just below Frederick, I have admired many moms I have met from that area. I always tell my sisters and friends that all my fellow "crunchier" moms live in Frederick. When I go to street fairs or other events, I always see baby-wearing/breastfeeding moms. I get my hair cut/colored in Frederick at an all natural salon - they even collect and re-use their rain water! Within one mile of FSK mall there are TWO great natural food grocery stores. Not that you have to be "crunchy" to want to feed your baby when it is hungry. I have just found that I quickly gravitated to an even greener lifestyle post-baby.

Regardless, I will be at the mall with my 33 month old ready to nurse - but only after I hit this great farmer's market that is a few miles away from the mall. Frederick is really not that bad. If I worked closer, I wouldn't mind living there.

I understand that as mothers we have the right to breastfeed in public. However, people have the right to do many things that others may find distasteful or offensive. By asking a NIP mother to cover up, move somewhere else, or expressing your discomfort one is not limiting or restricting her ability to NIP.

If someone is using a lot of profanity I may ask him to stop, if he chooses not to, then I may leave or I may ask him again.

Basically the adult thing to do is to respect others. None of the people in the story exhibited adult behavior. The people asking the NIP mom to stop were bullying, and the NIP mom was placing herself in a situation were she was clearly not welcome. Not that she didn't or doesn't have the right to NIP, but expecting to not deal with comments when others are offended or uncomfortable is unrealistic. The law doesn't protect a NIP mom from comments, questioning, bullying; it protects her from harassment and forcible removal. Bullying someone until they can't take it and leave is childish, immature, and not nice; however, it is not illegal.

For those mothers who NIP as a form of awareness and plan to educate the public about the normal way to feed a baby, congrats. You understand your rights, and hopefully hold yourself in an adult manner. Trying to change public perception is no easy task, and there will be people who make things difficult, but that doesn't mean they are breaking the law.

Ummmmmm - so how is bullying not harassment?

The law states:
* A mother may breastfeed her child in any public or private location in which the mother and child are authorized to be.
* A person may not restrict or limit the right of a mother to breastfeed her child.

How is bullying a woman who is nursing in public until she stops not restricting or limiting her right to breastfeed? How is attempting to impose arbitrary standards of "appropriateness" not limiting her right to breastfeed?

Every woman who has the courage and determination to breastfeed her child - in public or in private - is behaving in an eminently adult manner. She is doing what is best for her child in spite of tremendous cultural pressure to do otherwise. That, I think, is the definition of "adult".

You are 100% wrong and clearly have no understanding of what a LAW is. A mother nursing her child is PROTECTED by law as a special status of people. There is no law protecting someone's right to curse in a restaurant, in fact, that would be AGAINST the law as disorderly conduct. Who cares what you find "distasteful?" There are people who find interracial couples "distasteful" but their civil liberties are protected from ignorant business telling them to take their relationship elsewhere. That is DISCRIMINATION.

There IS a law protecting a mother's civil right to breastfeed her baby in a restaurant. In my state, a mother has the power to SUE the business owner for punitive damages and attorney fees for doing exactly what the employees of FSK Mall did. It is discrimination, plain and simple. This is no different than if the mall employees asked her to leave based on the color of her skin or a disability status.

Whether or not what FSK did was illegal (WHICH IT IS) it was totally inappropriate and completely undermines this mother's efforts to give her child the best food possible.
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And the non-employees? What about the other mother? She voiced her distaste and semi-bullied the mother, but childish and immature behavior is not against the law. Bullying and annoyance is not limiting or restricting - it's could be considered mean and annoying to deal with, but the NIP mother can still breastfeed, just not pleasantly. I am not trying to defend the behavior of any of the participants. Just trying to point out that law gives/protects her right to NIP, but it does not guarantee that it will be a pleasant experience (people can legally give you dirty looks, make comments, etc. and still be within their rights).

@MOM2G, the key word is "try." They asked her to move somewhere else, (or asking other mothers to cover up). The NIP mom can say, and they cannot force her to move or cover up, but the law does not protect someone from asking.

BTW there are many forms of discrimination that exist within the letter of the law. I was not trying to argue that this wasn't a case of discrimination, just that it (at least the other mother's behavior) didn't seem to be illegal.

The SECURITY GUARD - acting as a mall employee in a position of authority - DID try to prevent the mother from nursing in public, as did the customer service representative employed by the mall. Both of these people violated the MD state law. This is not a case of free speech. This is textbook violation of protected rights. It seems ludicrous that anyone would try to argue otherwise - which clearly even the FSK mall reps aren't doing.
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The comments on the news article simply infuriate me. No, I will NOT cover my baby up (if I do, he will be screaming, not nursing!) and I will not freaking go sit in a filthy disgusting bathroom (with my bored 5 year old WAITING instead of playing) just because YOU are uncomfortable. OMFG!!!!

Turn to the left and the right at the mall and you will see more boob on chicks with NO kids than you will ever see while I am nursing my son. WTF do people think we are just flopping our breasts out and letting them hang there???
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My mom breastfeed all 3 of us but she was such a prude. :P One time I was changing my Barbie's clothes and asked what the lumps were on her chest. My mom said they were called boobs and told me to quickly get her dressed. I was pretty much taught that exposing the chichis is wrong. But now I'm older and I've been taught what they are for, I think otherwise. Maybe it was just difficult for her to explain what they were for? I don't know. The problem is, I think, that we've been conditioned to think of breasts as sexual anatomy. They can be - but that's not what they're meant for. So... kudos to the mommy who stood her ground. I would have made someone call the cops on me to have me removed from the premises. And then reminded them I wasn't doing anything against the rules. ;) Good luck to you guys who are doing the Nurse-in!!

Has anyone been reading the comments associated with the DC news story? Wow! I can't even believe I live in the same country with some of these people - or that I'm from the same species.
http://www.wusa9.com/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=102084&catid=158

She made it on the DC news at 5 pm and 11 pm!
http://www.wusa9.com/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=102084&catid=158

I was shocked when she called me and told me this story. The mall had always been breastfriendly and I feel our area, generally, is great to nursing moms. It's sad a few WOMEN would attack their fellow mama is such a way. Nurse In is still on to help educate the community at large.

What do they mean by a renovated family "restroom". Is it really a bathroom? I'm sorry I'm not nursing my daughter in a bathroom. I don't care how nice you think it is. Has anyone seen the "nursing" room/family restroom?

Sorry, FSK mall. To all those that think we should go to a restroom to nurse. Why don't you go eat your lunch in the bathroom yourself.

The nursing room is a separate room located adjacent to the family restroom - not inside of it. It includes a glider as well as a child-sized table and chair set for older children to sit at. Nursing mothers are never required to use it, it is only an option for those who should want some privacy. If you have any further questions, you are welcome to call the mall management office at 301-662-5152.

The FSK mall website indicates that they have a Victoria Secrets. Not to offend anyone here that may shop VS, but I have often avoided walking by that store in my hometown mall with my young daughter, now almost 9. I don't want to expose her to the bizarrely proportioned female manikins and larger than life images of sex-toy tits and ass unnaturally pasted in skeletal bodies that ALWAYS adorn their display windows. These images are all the more distasteful to me because of the direct commercial component of selling sex. At her young age my daughter is already showing signs of body image issues, and I don't want to add fuel to her confusion. My three-year-old son is starting to notice such things - all the more reason to steer clear of VS. I imagine most mall goers don't even give the displays a second thought.

So - mostly naked, sexually provocative images and statues are just fine at FSK mall - and most American malls - but mall security is worried about a bf mom warping young minds. Right.

Ever since they remodeled the one here in Columbia I shudder every time I pass it. It seriously looks like a bordello; not something that should be in a mall. The one here is also really close to the children's play area; why aren't people complaining about that?

VS is directly across from Gymboree at my mall.

The whole thing is beyond by ability to understand.

I agree Karen. Will all current and future mall staff be educated on what to do if a patron complains about someone nursing? Will the security guards protect a nursing mother from an ignorant patron who might be harrasing her? Will they become lax about making sure all staff know then slack off after a few months until we have another incident? The statement the FSK Mall management posted is identical to those in reply to e-mail complaints about her treatment. It is a good statement....but I hope there is teeth and depth to what they write...... and where is that mall patron with the stupid comment about her personal horror that was having her kids seeing a mother breastfeeding? Where is her apology letter!!!!!!
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As a Maryland resident who was thinking about moving to Frederick... I'm rethinking that decision and FSK Staff is to thank. Just sayin.
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Come on Emily! Plenty of us here are reasonable!!! (Frederick that is)!
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Well, you know we don't want you to move that far out anyway, so should I be thanking the mall management?

Francis Scott Key Mall is familiar with and understands the Maryland Law regarding breastfeeding. Please know that we welcome mothers to breastfeed anywhere at anytime here at Francis Scott Key Mall. For mothers who prefer to have more privacy, we also have a recently renovated family restroom available as a wonderful, private space for nursing moms.

Francis Scott Key Mall has taken this opportunity to review the Maryland Law regarding breastfeeding with our team members. What transpired a few days ago was an isolated incident, and action has been taken to address the issue. We welcome all to Francis Scott Key Mall, and fully support mothers’ rights in every capacity.

Francis Scott Key Mall Management

I'm curious what "actions have been taken to address the issue." It is one thing to state that you "welcome mothers to breastfeed" but quite another to actually create a welcoming atmosphere. I'm quite sure that your breastfeeding policy was to "welcome" breastfeed mothers on May 24th but this woman was still shamed by your staff.

Unless you're seriously reprimanding the staff who broke the law in shaming this woman, then you haven't gone far enough.

They are going to cost the mall $$$ to fight a lawsuit now. Have they paid the price with their jobs or been suspended without pay?

I think a public apology to the woman they harassed is in order at the very least.

This incident has provided us with a teachable moment, allowing us to retrain all of our employees on Maryland laws regarding breastfeeding. Should you have any additional questions, please don't hesitate to contact the mall management office at 301-662-5152.

I appreciate the effort in retraining, and in choosing to look at the incident as a teachable moment. That's admirable. I do agree that an apology to the mom would go a long way as well.
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Thank you for responding and using this as an opportunity to address this issue with your staff.

WHAT is wrong with people. The idea that a little boy doesn't grow up knowing why a boob would be in a baby's mouth is a HUGE problem. Her whole experience says really awful things about our society. Good for her standing up for herself and not backing down to bullying!
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If you can't make it in person, please share your thoughts with the mall: http://www.shopfskmall.com/tools/contact_us

Thanks for posting that info - I was just thinking I'd have to look it up to let them know what I think since I can't be there in person! :-)

Granted I used a blanket anytime I nursed... but that was for MY COMFORT. I was a G cup while nursing & they were so massive that I just felt way too exposed. But if I was at a private home & it was just women around, screw it... off with the blanket. Even those who were bottle feeders never batted an eye... They knew my baby had to eat. I wish people would realize that boobs are FIRST & FOREMOST a means to feed a baby. If daddy can get some joy out of them in between, fine, but that's not what they were made for. It baffles me that in this country it is ok for little girls to wear bikinis, 'hoochie' shorts (as I've always known them to be called) & halter tops... but to feed a baby by the breast is looked at funny? Are we a backwards society or what! I wish all moms could have the good fortune I did & that if anyone was 'uncomfortable' by her nursing they would just keep their mouths shut. I actually did have an occassion of a little kid asking his mom why I was feeding the baby like that & I don't understand why the mom in this story was so stumped... the occassion that happened to me, well, the mom simply explained that some moms give their baby milk made by mom's body & that's how the baby has to eat in order to get it out. She wasn't stumped for a moment even though she obviously had bottle fed. So I don't see why so many moms are baffled. Kids ask questions, that's what they do. It doesn't mean they are being corrupted, it just means they are a kid & curious. They only take it as corruption when the parent in charge responds the way that mother did & asks like something is wrong.

Thankfully, I've never had to deal with ignorant people. In fact my own experience at a restaurant was one of an older woman congratulating me on my baby and saying "good for you!" for breastfeeding.

Now that I'm on my third, I hardly ever take a blanket with me. At least not for breastfeeding. Since I'm currently in Texas, and it's hot as hades down here, I will NOT be putting my child under a blanket to eat. Period.
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I was curious how nursing my second son would work for my first. He weaned himself at a year (which was fine with me) so now at 2 he has no memory of the experience. I had NO REASON to worry. He's hilarious about it, actually. He talks about the baby's milk when I'm nursing (I've never explained it to him, he's never asked). One day I was pumping and he looked at me and asked if I was "Getting more baby's milk" I just said "yeah, thats right."

My formula fed friends kids who are 4, 3 and 2 have NEVER asked what I was doing. They either just knew or, you know, were too busy being kids to think anything of it.

I'm guessing kids that are skeeved out by breastfeeding only feel that way because parents have actually told them it's yucky or made side comments about how skeeved out THEY are.

It's a shame really.

When left to their own devices kids will come up with explanations of their own. Prejudice starts early and it's not inate.
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Oh my, why do we still need to have this conversation in 2010? I know, I’m just pissed off about this. Such BS. I guess I’m lucky, I’ve never had anyone hassle me about NIP ever, in the now four years that I’ve done it.
And that whole bit about “boo-hoo, my kid asked me a question and I don’t know how to answer it” thing? What do these people think being a parent is? I try not to be judgmental, but come on people, answering hard questions is a big part of being a parent! You think answering a simple question about breastfeeding is hard? Try explaining death to your three year old who just watched the family cat have a stroke and die on the kitchen floor. THAT is hard to talk about with your kid, not breastfeeding. But really, it isn’t about “omg, what will the children think?” it IS about some ninny having their hair in a bunch about breastfeeding.

Thanks for posting on this! The mom is a litigation lawyer in DC. They are messing with the wrong mom, and all the people she knows and all the people thoose people know!

I used to think Frederick was pretty forward thinking about nursing in public since I havent heard or seen anything like this incident in the almost 6 years I have been nursing (on and off- on third kid now). The worst is that I have anxiety about nursing my babies in public because of the ignorance people have about breastfeeding. I shouldn't have to feel afraid that someone who works somewhere feels it needs to be 'managed'.
My new baby is 5 weeks old and her first public nursing was at Costco looking at the printer section. The second time I was in Target. I figure since they had their own incident lately that (I HOPE) the staff has been trained that nursing is a non-event and a right of patrons. I hope this mall and ALL stores make sure the people who work there know this!!!
Thanks GinA!
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I'll be there! Nursing my nearly 3 year old! My first nurse-in!

That is so great!! lol A three year old nursing will really bother people!! :) I'm sorry I just have to laugh about this as my in-laws were so "disturbed" that I breastfed my 3 year-old. Like it is ok until they are a certain age and then it becomes wrong!
FYI if you see the trailer for the new Adam Sandler movie you will see them making fun of this, there is a scene where his friends son goes up to his friends wife (his mom) and says can I have a drink mommy and she says yes and he starts drinking from her breast, the other mom covers her daughters eyes and asks how old the boy is. The dad says 48 months obviously embarrassed and the other guy goes you mean 4? Like there is something wrong with that. I like Adam Sandler movies but this bothered me. This attitude is the problem, BF is ok but not in public and only until the baby is 1 year old!!
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RETCH. That's as bad, if not worse, than the home birth scene in that recent J Lo flick!
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Hooray to this!!
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I'm going to go off on a little (somewhat) o/t rant here, but why, why, WHY do people think that seeing nursing babies will CORRUPT their children?

Before I had my son, I never really thought about it, but our children (in general) are so programmed about bottles that the baby dolls at stores even come with bottles and it's kind of jarring to the non-nursers around us to see a little boy or little girl pretending to nurse a baby.

I remember when a friend of mine shared a photo of her son pretending to nurse a baby dolll and I was had this guttural shock/discomfort at first, because I never really thought about it. Once I started nursing my own baby and was around so many people whose kids grew up with nursing babies/toddlers, it became more normal to me and bottles actually weird me out now. (I even have a friend whose son asks mom to nurse his trucks so they will go really fast)

Would mainstream America freak out at little boys and girls play-nursing their babies (and trucks, and stuffed animals, etc...)? Of course they would and it's because of this mentality:

“But my son asked me, “Mommy, why is that lady putting her boob in that baby’s mouth?”

My nieces and nephews were bottle fed. When I came home with my son and we were all at the grandparents' house the first time, I was feeding him (under a hooter hider, but those were the days when I actually cared if people could see) and my 5-year-old niece stuck her head under it and said:

"Why are you feeding your baby from your belly?"

And my SIL was kind of embarrassed and shocked and I was stumped. (call it "i just had a baby like 72 hours ago and I haven't slept yet" syndrome)

All I could come up with was "some babies eat like this and some babies eat from bottles"

Every time she saw me after that -- for months! -- she asked me when I was going to get a real bottle like her mommy has.

Sighhhhhhhhhhh...

Same here, Pamela. I've had little cousins ask why I'm feeind the baby from my booby, and I just say "because that's how babies eat." And they'd say "I never did that!" OR they'd ask their mom if they ever did that, and then she had to explain the rest.

I will be breastfeeding in public on June 5 and any other day I feel like it in honor of this mother/child and any other mother/child that have been harassed!